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Post by Claire Bear on Apr 18, 2016 14:05:28 GMT
Post your thoughts on the F3 and see if anything changes between now and the end of the game. Xena - my #1 bae for the whole post merge game ![:<3](http://i2.ifrm.com/16102/197/emo/heart.gif) As I've said before, I think she had the best pre merge game out of everyone on Sulaco and I called her as the winner back then, before we were really even allies. She's probably made some errors post merge but she's done enough to never be a big target while Sulaco was killing each other, all the while being fairly well liked my much of the jury, so hats off to her for that. She'd have to do quite a bit wrong from here to lose my vote. Mother Russia - seems like a lot of people underestimated her game here, she clearly had a lot of say on how the votes went down. If my vote was only based on post merge strategic game she'd have it for sure. It is hard to get over the fact that she was first or second boot if Sulaco ever lost but credit to her for turning it around. It seems like her social game was only really existent to the people she was closest to, of which I was not one, and that's a big part of the game for me. There were more messages in public about how she'll get to messages in private than there actually were messages in private. That may not have been true for everyone but I can only base it on my experiences. Could pinch my vote with an excellent FTC. Selene - least likely to get my vote. She was the most vocal about #bluestrong out of anyone pre merge only to completely destroy it by targeting Cherry when we had all talked about voting Trinity for two weeks, causing a division that never repaired. Not to say it was completely her fault, but she was the catalyst. After Babydoll and Kaylee were taken out I think she did very little apart from hop on Mother Russia's back and go along for the ride. Can't see myself voting for her in any situation. Discuss!
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Post by Jessica on Apr 18, 2016 14:15:03 GMT
Xena - best social game by a country mile. The bitch is easy to talk to and just fun to be around... except when she's not. She was strategically very myopic, and a low priority target due to being weaker than Claire/Nox, but she made the most of that position. She had moments of poor sportsmanship, but on the whole seems like a well adjusted bitch. She's an excellent chance to get my vote and I'd like to hear her address her shortcomings at FTC.
Mother Russia - sensational ability to read people and situations with seemingly very little information. She won the social challenge pre-merge and yet was seemingly not PMing much with anyone. Perhaps she listens more than she speaks? She always knew who to trust post merge and she knew of every vote - yep, right from Cherry onward. Nobody else in the game (including me) can say that. So probably the best strategic game by a country mile. Her social game was obviously poor with many, but she must have got her reads from somewhere. I'm assuming she was more of a taker than a giver. Good chance at my vote and keen to see her FTC.
Selene - least likely to get my vote. Socially she was not as good as Xena and strategically she wasn't as good as MR. And challenge-wise .. we won't even go there. She puts in plenty of effort though - but her social skills seemed to rub more people the wrong way than the right way.
Let's see if I change my mind.
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Post by Claire Bear on Apr 18, 2016 14:20:31 GMT
I don't think winning a pre merge challenge on Sulaco was a huge deal. I forwent every single one and I'd be surprised if others didn't do the same ![:P](http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png)
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Post by Jessica on Apr 18, 2016 14:24:43 GMT
I don't think winning a pre merge challenge on Sulaco was a huge deal. I forwent every single one and I'd be surprised if others didn't do the same ![:P](http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png) that was the double though - so you knew you were going to tribal. I never forwent any.
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Post by Cherry Berri on Apr 18, 2016 14:43:57 GMT
I don't care to know or ask about their games because Xena played better by a country mile, MR decided to start playing at the merge and Selene was a huge reason I was targeted so early but I MIGHT throw her a vote because at least she got passion out of me due to my seething hatred for her.
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Post by Noxeema on Apr 18, 2016 15:11:25 GMT
Only because I wasn't allowed compete that time *z-snap*I think my thoughts are pretty clear on each of the three from my scattered posts here and there. I don't see any way I don't vote for Xena, but Mother Russia could wow me to the point of that. But like, 90/10 between them at the mo. I guess Selene could wow me too? But I think I know what her pitch and plea here will read like and it not enough for my vote. What I am curious about is do we want to co-ordinate questions at all? They're all getting posted before we get to read each others so we can't adjust on the fly and it might save some double hitting the same topics. I don't have all that much to talk about, but I do want to put something to Russia about whether this was her ideal Final Three and since when, and if not then what. Because I'm working to the logic that she probably didn't want Xena there and wanted TX in her place? And if that's the case she would have had a more legitimate chance at my vote. But this piqued my interest Yeah not even close lol. You or Alice could very easily have taken my vote at the end. TX seemed to be just there. I had a confessional before when everyone was saying no way we can let Greens make the end, that it might be possible to go there with two of you and hope for a vote split, or if it had to be just one then it would have to be TX. Which in turn was horrible because she was the only one I didn't have any semblance of trust with. Interesting. Tell me, I was selling the idea to MR that her best chance in the FTC was against both TX and I, and I believed it. How close was I there you reckon? Because bringing one from every side is a bad idea just with all the social-Jury votes that going to go to people. You need to free those up somehow. And she's done that with the Nostromo side now? *IF* the plan was to have this Final Three. But now she loses all the Xena-loyalists and the Selene-loyalists. Two from one side would be better. But TX & Jess is yes lol, a bad idea too I don't see anyone but Jess winning that. And *IF* the plan was a no-Xena F3 then she losing different ones instead. So getting to that F4 was not all that much in her interests to win from. Or was the abiding plan just getting to the end? idk it is hard to know without asking. Her best chance since I left might have been to go with Claire & Xena and hope their loyal/social votes get split and shared a bit and she has a chance at the ones now that now are going to Selene, as well as the ones that could have gone to TX. I wish I could say me in that three lol - but then she wouldn't have had the moves to her credit and would be viewed as a follower/goat despite the options being there should she have wanted. So that's a thing too - she needed to be seen to make moves as she went. She's definitely the one I want to hear from the most. Story of her game lol. That's all I'm really interested in from any of them so back off bitches if any of you thinking of double tapping MR the same thing I'm already asking.
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Post by Alice on Apr 18, 2016 15:31:45 GMT
Xena - Love her, love everything about her, thinking about being her for halloween. I loved our banter and I loved she was fun and she was social but she wasn't too heavy on it. I mean, if she wins this let's be real, she wins on friendship vote. Did she play a good middle of the road game? Yes she did. I mean, she didn't do anything wow factor like she tried to organise that 9 person vote. ![:lol](http://i2.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) and she stayed pretty solid with her allies while the three Nostromo girls flipped side to side every round. She's pleasant, Mother Russia - I know I can sit here and proclaim she played the best game, which in her defence she did. She stayed camouflaged with you guys, told us how you were voting and how we should vote. When we voted with Selene and co., Mother Russia purposely voted with Xena and co. to stay in the know so she could feed us exactly where the votes where going. When we got bullshitted that entire round to vote for T-X... we knew the whole time the votes were landing on Jessica because Mother Russia told us and she flipped at exactly the right time to take us out which is fair because we were totally using her. ![:lol](http://i2.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Yeah, fair point... the girls social game was shit with most people but the girl amped it up at the correct time, what else could she do when you guys won everything and then the one moment you guys got to vote her out... she fucking won immunity and ruined your lives. Selene - Yeah, I'm gonna have a hard time with Selene. The girl put in the effort but sometimes getting too personal with people is a bad strategy because then those personal feelings bubble to the surface when you vote them out. You gotta keep it light like... talking about this weeks episode of Survivor or just talking about the day in general... she didn't need to know my ancestry.com family tree which is what I felt like I was giving her sometimes. I have some issues I wanna hash out with her but her biggest mistake was literally not voting out Xena with us and maybe even taking it to a tie at F6 for control but even then she'd get slayed by Claire Bear in the finals because she was fourth at best with our group unless T-X did decide to snap and take one of us out... or I snapped ![:lol](http://i2.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) . I felt like you give Selene a lot of yourself and you really put in the effort with her and you show her you have her back by looking out for her which I did several times and then she's quick to turn around say "OMG I ADORE YOU, LOVE YOU SO MUCH" in her voting confessional and put a big rusty knife in your back without any explanation and think a couple of bullshit fake love hearts are going to make everything ok.
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Post by Cherry Berri on Apr 18, 2016 15:37:12 GMT
Mother Russia was never leaving before Trinity tho so she didn't even save herself. Hell I have reason to believe she would have outlasted me if Selene, Babydoll and Kaylee had their way.
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Post by Babydoll on Apr 18, 2016 15:48:41 GMT
Mother Russia was never leaving before Trinity tho so she didn't even save herself. Hell I have reason to believe she would have outlasted me if Selene, Babydoll and Kaylee had their way. It depends when we're talking though. Girl I would never have voted for you pre-Noxy mutiny. Pretty sure the bottom two on Sulaco were definitely Trinity and Mother Russia.
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Post by Babydoll on Apr 18, 2016 15:49:25 GMT
I forwent every single one Yeah same! ![:<3](http://i2.ifrm.com/16102/197/emo/heart.gif)
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Post by Babydoll on Apr 18, 2016 15:51:07 GMT
Mother Russia was never leaving before Trinity tho so she didn't even save herself. Hell I have reason to believe she would have outlasted me if Selene, Babydoll and Kaylee had their way. It depends when we're talking though. Girl I would never have voted for you pre-Noxy mutiny. Pretty sure the bottom two on Sulaco were definitely Trinity and Mother Russia. Oh we're talking the Trin boot? Nah Mother Russia can claim she was on the bloc all she likes but heading into that round it was always going to be Trinity.
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Post by Babydoll on Apr 18, 2016 16:00:35 GMT
Xena - possible, but I don't really see how she had to fight to be at the end as much as the other two. I don't think she was as tested. Fierce enough...?
MoRu - I still do not see how this girl played "the best game" when she just hit cruise control for the first half.
Selene - She fought, but maybe she fought more than necessary? There were a lot of situations that just didn't work in her favour. OH and the sentiment of being told to vote for X = people not wanting to vote for X is real. The more I hear Mother Russia pushed as this *AMAZING PLAYER* when the Mother Russia I knew TWICE left gaps in PM conversations that were SIX. FUCKING. DAYS. LONG. One of these was in the post-merge too -- in fact I sent her a PM on April 4th and then another on April 10th and got no reply at all by the time I left the game that night! That is just total laziness and I am going to really struggle to reward that.
That being said I'm prepared to vote for all three. No bitterness toward any of them.
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Post by Noxeema on Apr 18, 2016 16:16:36 GMT
Has T-X shown up since her boot? ![:unsure](http://i2.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) Maybe she still got that RL thing that was weighing on her. When you get here girl, who do you think leaves if you'd been immune, Xena? And if say one of the other two was immune, do you leave or does someone else?
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Post by Alice on Apr 18, 2016 16:24:02 GMT
Sometimes people don't have the time like some of us to dedicated hours and hours on end to replying to PMs, I mean I get some of us live in a ON DEMAND world where if it isn't happening right now, it isn't happening at all, but I mean... Selene hung around for hours on end not even talking game and at least when Mother Russia showed up she had a game plan and was using the people she needed to to put it into action. I didn't need to be breast fed every half hour with a PM from people but as long as when you did reply, it was effective, it was enough for me. Also really, no one should be talking about the first half of the game unless you are from Nostromo... the moment one of these bitches bring up ANYTHING pre-merge that doesn't have a strong valid point into the merge... will lose points.
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Post by Cameron on Apr 18, 2016 16:38:57 GMT
The more I hear Mother Russia pushed as this *AMAZING PLAYER* when the Mother Russia I knew TWICE left gaps in PM conversations that were SIX. FUCKING. DAYS. LONG. This ![:lol](http://i2.ifrm.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Tbh I'm getting kinda annoyed. The more and more I think about it the less I even want to consider voting for her. It's not doing any favors for her case saying that she "probably didn't have time" to PM people when that is basically EVERYTHING this game is about
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